Comments on: Fair Use, the horse it rode in on, and the Jackasses it created. http://www.ravinglunacy.org/index.php/2007/12/24/fair-use-the-horse-it-rode-in-on-and-the-jackasses-it-created/ where memes come to die Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:31:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: the head lemur http://www.ravinglunacy.org/index.php/2007/12/24/fair-use-the-horse-it-rode-in-on-and-the-jackasses-it-created/comment-page-1/#comment-538 the head lemur Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:31:51 +0000 http://www.ravinglunacy.org/index.php/2007/12/24/fair-use-the-horse-it-rode-in-on-and-the-jackasses-it-created/#comment-538 madame l, I took a look and it looks like they are reserving 'all' rights. It is legal but as we both note silly in the extreme. Since we all have "right click copyright" I wonder how they pay for the photos that independent photographers sell to them. AP doesn't have a legion of photogs and does buy photos. I can't conceive of every photographer signing all rights to the AP. As far as home use, check with Dave Winer and see how much heat he is getting with FlickerFan. madame l,

I took a look and it looks like they are reserving ‘all’ rights. It is legal but as we both note silly in the extreme. Since we all have “right click copyright”

I wonder how they pay for the photos that independent photographers sell to them. AP doesn’t have a legion of photogs and does buy photos. I can’t conceive of every photographer signing all rights to the AP.

As far as home use, check with Dave Winer and see how much heat he is getting with FlickerFan.

]]> By: madame l. http://www.ravinglunacy.org/index.php/2007/12/24/fair-use-the-horse-it-rode-in-on-and-the-jackasses-it-created/comment-page-1/#comment-502 madame l. Mon, 31 Dec 2007 07:52:28 +0000 http://www.ravinglunacy.org/index.php/2007/12/24/fair-use-the-horse-it-rode-in-on-and-the-jackasses-it-created/#comment-502 could you explain to me what the AP's personal use of their (online) photos policy is? i have read it and can't understand. if, for instance, someone were to integrate AP photos in an app for home use, would they be in violation? i have no qualms about taking anything from anyone, i just want to be clear on the rules. appreciate it. could you explain to me what the AP’s personal use of their (online) photos policy is? i have read it and can’t understand.

if, for instance, someone were to integrate AP photos in an app for home use, would they be in violation? i have no qualms about taking anything from anyone, i just want to be clear on the rules.

appreciate it.

]]> By: the head lemur http://www.ravinglunacy.org/index.php/2007/12/24/fair-use-the-horse-it-rode-in-on-and-the-jackasses-it-created/comment-page-1/#comment-492 the head lemur Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:48:39 +0000 http://www.ravinglunacy.org/index.php/2007/12/24/fair-use-the-horse-it-rode-in-on-and-the-jackasses-it-created/#comment-492 McD, Thanks for the heads up. Corrected. A DMCA takedown was not the tool for the job in this case. The damage here is not a pissing match over 'fair use' but the creativity that we will lose from folks who want to create, but won't because of this sort ACME Rocket used to move a couple of inches, when a light touch will work. But then, current Copyright Law is FUBAR. 14 years is long enough! McD,

Thanks for the heads up. Corrected.

A DMCA takedown was not the tool for the job in this case. The damage here is not a pissing match over ‘fair use’ but the creativity that we will lose from folks who want to create, but won’t because of this sort ACME Rocket used to move a couple of inches, when a light touch will work.

But then, current Copyright Law is FUBAR.
14 years is long enough!

]]> By: McD http://www.ravinglunacy.org/index.php/2007/12/24/fair-use-the-horse-it-rode-in-on-and-the-jackasses-it-created/comment-page-1/#comment-476 McD Tue, 25 Dec 2007 22:42:11 +0000 http://www.ravinglunacy.org/index.php/2007/12/24/fair-use-the-horse-it-rode-in-on-and-the-jackasses-it-created/#comment-476 Alan, It's great to see you writing with all of our full powers. I happen to think this use of IP Right was over reaching: Wendy Seltzer and Lawgeek agree that the use is "defensible" and Lane would be unwise to take it to court. The public court has ruled her use of the DMCA to been extreme and unreasonable, IMHO. Lane's iakge was embedded in a video that comments on a business sector that Lane works for Wired and her image of the key players if central to illustrating that world of happy smiling entrepreneurs. The image is till available from: http://blog.wired.com/business/2007/05/geeks_and_suits.html It was not taken from Lane's Flickr account. Please correct that. I wish people would try to discuss this episode without attacking the people at odds over the rights of the image. The Richter Scales guys are not much of a band commercially. They are more of a bad habit and make almost no money doing soemthing they love. They tried to work with Lane with the exception of sending her money they don't have. They might do a benefit and let people discuss the issue and raise some money to say "mea culpa". Alan,

It’s great to see you writing with all of our full powers.

I happen to think this use of IP Right was over reaching: Wendy Seltzer and Lawgeek agree that the use is “defensible” and Lane would be unwise to take it to court.

The public court has ruled her use of the DMCA to been extreme and unreasonable, IMHO.

Lane’s iakge was embedded in a video that comments on a business sector that Lane works for Wired and her image of the key players if central to illustrating that world of happy smiling entrepreneurs.

The image is till available from:

http://blog.wired.com/business/2007/05/geeks_and_suits.html

It was not taken from Lane’s Flickr account. Please correct that.

I wish people would try to discuss this episode without attacking the people at odds over the rights of the image.

The Richter Scales guys are not much of a band commercially. They are more of a bad habit and make almost no money doing soemthing they love.

They tried to work with Lane with the exception of sending her money they don’t have. They might do a benefit and let people discuss the issue and raise some money to say “mea culpa”.

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